‘Maintenance Phase’ Is The Podcast Debunking Everything You Think You Know About Diet Culture

Taking on fatphobic science and the wellness industry one deep dive at a time.


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If you’ve been alive in the last 50 years, you’ve definitely been exposed to near terminal amounts of unhealthy diet culture and anti-fat bias, and Maintenance Phase is here to help you unlearn it.

Hosted by You’re Wrong About‘s Michael Hobbes and author of What We Don’t Talk About When We Talk About Fat Aubrey Gordon, Maintenance Phase is a podcast all about debunking wellness fads, junk weight-loss science, and diet culture. Every week the duo tackle a different facet of the abyss that is fad nutrition science and diet culture.

Since October of 2020, the podcast has already delved deep into topics such as the untold history behind the Keto Diet, dissecting the harm of The Biggest Loser, the insidious and violence of anti-fat discrimination, and even the wellness to QANON pipeline. There are also episodes detailing the debunked scientific data behind the obesity moral panic, and the Body Mass Index.

Like in You’re Wrong About, Hobbes and Gordon’s deep dives are informed by academic and evidence-based research. Maintenance Phase isn’t a podcast where you’re listening to two people share their opinions. Rather, it’s delivering researched and verified information by way of conversation.

Most of us, if not all of us, have grown up surrounded by a capitalist culture that glorifies thinness to the point of discrimination and harm. The Maintenance Phase podcast spreads itself across both the cultural and scientific history of fatphobia and how it has influenced everything from science, to television, to pharmaceutical industries, to architecture and infrastructure.

Whether you’re looking to learn more about the debunked science and culture behind dieting for yourself or looking to be a better ally against anti-fatness, Maintenance Phase is vital listening.

Maintenance Phase is currently being released every other Tuesday. Its latest episode tackles no one’s favourite guy Jordan Peterson’s Carnivore Diet. Listen to it wherever you get your podcasts.